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Updated: Four Students Brought BB Guns to Whitefish Bay High School

Police confiscated the guns from the three 12-year-olds and the 13-year-olds involved. District officials determined it was safe to hold regular classes today.

Four Whitefish Bay Middle School students could face juvenile charges for brandishing an unlocked BB gun and pellet gun at Whitefish Bay High School Wednesday.

After receiving a report from a middle school student at 3:45 p.m. Thursday, a Whitefish Bay police investigation found that four students displayed two weapons — an unloaded BB gun and an unloaded pellet gun — after school hours at Whitefish Bay High School on Wednesday, according to Whitefish Bay police.

One 13-year-old student and three 12-year-old students were questioned and released to their parents. All four students will be referred to Milwaukee County Children’s Court Center for review of charges that will include possession of a dangerous weapon on school premises, according to Whitefish Bay police. Police confiscated the BB gun and pellet gun on Thursday.

School officials learned of the potential security threat Thursday night, and worked with the police department throughout the night, according to a letter to school parents written by Superintendent Mary Gavigan. Working in conjunction with the police, it was determined Whitefish Bay schools were safe for student and staff attendance today. 

Whitefish Bay police say this is an ongoing, active investigation, and the department continues to be in contact with personnel from the Whitefish Bay School District.

A WFB Resident January 19, 2013 at 09:59 PM
4. Possessing a dangerous weapon (as defined in §939.22(10), Wis. Stats.) while on school property or under school supervision. Listed under school board policy for expulsion http://www.wfbschools.com/district/doboardpolicies.cfm#d96832
Tax Payer January 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM
Nicely done WFB Resident. It is always nice to quote facts.
aaaaaa January 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM
I think the people making a comparing this in any manner to Sandy Hook should look at some facts (and with the Aurora shootings)...those individuals were mentally ill. They were misfits with no friends. It is a bit of a stretch to say this is similar or could lead to that. That said, I do feel that there should be a punishment in keeping with the times we live in. Enforcement of the rules is important - although I'd like to know what was going on - could be as innocent as their making a home movie or playing some sort of cops 'n robbers game - I don't know! I still maintain that we live in a wonderful community - I for one enjoy seeing kids at Starbucks and Bueggers et al. I also feel that Bay is a wonderful place to grow up and most parents use an appropriate amount of supervision. Remember: it can happen that today's helicopter parented kid become tomorrow's homesick, binge drinking, black out drunk college freshman. Balance is the key to everything!
Bob McBride January 19, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Here's the actual policy related to weapons: ********************* Violations: (a) Persons age 20 or less: A Whitefish Bay school student who violates this policy (no person shall possess, use, or threaten use of a weapon, or a look-alike weapon, on school premises, on school sponsored vehicles, or at any school-related event) shall be subject to school disciplinary action, including suspension and/or expulsion, in accordance with state and federal laws and Board policies. Disciplinary measures taken will be the responsibility of the building principal. Circumstances involving a policy violation, including the age of the student, will be taken into consideration when disciplinary action is being determined. Weapons will be confiscated by the District. A weapon taken from a Whitefish Bay school student will be reported to the student's parents/guardians. The building principal may also report confiscation of a weapon to the police. A violator age 20 or less who is not a student in Whitefish Bay Schools will be subject to appropriate response by the District which may include referral to law enforcement officials. ************************ Expulsion is an option, not mandatory. Given that we're talking about 12/13 year olds with unloaded BB/pellet guns, outside the school after hours, you still think expulsion is the correct call on this, "Tax Payer"?
Bill January 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM
It was unloaded no big deal
Tax Payer January 19, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Bobby I think the more that is learned about this incident the more folks will see that expulsion is the correct remedy. So my answer is "yes".
Bob McBride January 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM
I wouldn't count on it. I think most folks are level-headed enough to realize that this doesn't rise to the level of expulsion. But if you feel that strongly that, in light of what happened at Sandy Hook, a couple of kids with unloaded BB/pellet guns should be expelled, why not come out from behind the safety of your anonymous "Tax Payer" pseudonym and stop in at the Village Board meeting on Monday night and make your concerns known? They offer citizens an opportunity to address concerns they may have to Village Officials. All they require is that you state your name and address for the record, I believe.
A WFB Resident January 20, 2013 at 12:11 AM
A Village Board meeting would not be the appropriate place. They have no governing rights over the schools
A WFB Resident January 20, 2013 at 01:09 AM
A Village Board meeting would not be the appropriate place. They have no governing rights over the School District.
Bob McBride January 20, 2013 at 03:28 AM
Perhaps, but it would be an opportunity for those of you who feel someone else's kids should be expelled to come out from behind the anonymity and safety of a pseudonym on Patch to argue your position. I'm sure if it was your kid in a sticky position and others were promoting the concept of their expulsion, you'd want to know who those folks were. If you're so sure of your position, you should have no problem with that. Or, if you prefer, there's a School Board "Regular Business Meeting" on Feb 13th. I doubt this issue will be resolved before that date. Stop on in and demand the kids be expelled.
bobby joe January 20, 2013 at 03:30 AM
If that was your kid you would not be saying something like that.
A WFB Resident January 20, 2013 at 03:53 AM
My child has been the recipient of various "sticky positions" and I'm not sure who you think you are to "demand" anything of me or anyone else on this board. I am a resident of WFB and at recent check, you are not listed as a homeowner. I have cited facts. I'm sorry if they and my opinion make you uncomfortable. Since no one here is required to have any full name with their terms and conditions you are the last person who has any rights to demand anything as you don't own me or this website. How about if we demand names of these children, their parents and their reasoning for doing what they have done? Why don't you demand that?
Bob McBride January 20, 2013 at 04:36 AM
I don't know that you're a resident of WFB. I don't even know if you're an adult. Certainly the position you've taken in regards to this situation would tend to lead one to believe that you have very little understanding of the kinds of situations kids get themselves into and how. Or an understanding of how devastating an expulsion would be to the kids and their families. Then again, since you're posting anonymously, there's no need for you to act or behave rationally or responsibly. You can lash out, suggest unreasonable punishments and then take offense when the absurdity of your position is tossed back in your face w/o any fear of embarrassing yourself or your family (assuming you have one). In addition to being anonymous and irrational, you also appear to be lazy. The only way to obtain the information you're looking for, assuming it could be obtained at all, would be from the police department. I'm not going to do it for you. I'm not even going to look the number up for you. But I'm pretty sure if you do call looking for that information, you're going to be required to identify yourself.
Tax Payer January 20, 2013 at 02:05 PM
Bob - Are you a serial Patch poster? Is this forum kind of your "blog" so to speak? Just curious. You seem to be engaged on this site an awful lot.
Tiredboys January 20, 2013 at 02:48 PM
There are many opinions on here and it doesn't appear that most of you have all the facts (mostly because they are confidential and not something that should be general knowledge). And I think Bob just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. These are kids.... who made a terrible choice beyond that, I don't think anyone knows more details. Leave this for the school district and the police....they do have all the details and are in the position to hand down the right consequences.
Bob McBride January 20, 2013 at 02:51 PM
What is a serial Patch poster?
Bob McBride January 20, 2013 at 03:03 PM
While I do enjoy a good argument, I do feel strongly that anonymous people calling for the expulsion of someone else's children, without, as you've noted the details of situation being fully known at this point, is really bad form and something they wouldn't be doing without the benefit of that anonymity. If I feel strongly about something I'm going to comment on it. If you or anyone doesn't like the comments, "Flag as inappropriate" and let the folks who run Patch take care of it.
HS January 20, 2013 at 04:12 PM
So, say they don't get expelled...and everyone talks about it at school, the kids then are seen as "not so tough" anymore bec their silly little weapons were unloaded...and they are then feeling bullied, in a sense, and this happens again, but with bullets. Rules are rules. Weapons are weapons. It's seen as a threat and can scare the other students, and if it's just a slap on the wrist they get, then maybe others won't be scared to do the same, and the situation repeats itself. Don't follow rules, deal with consequences. Every student will learn from this. And a pellet gun, as wimpy a gun as some may see it as, with a bullet, can do serious damage. I vote expulsion. I know it's not up to me. It's my opinion. Mom of 4, in WFB, with child in same grade & classes as students involved, who grew up in Riverwest, and at one point had a pellet gun held to my head, and luckily not shot.
Harry January 20, 2013 at 11:19 PM
After all that's been said and done, where again were the parents.....tisk, tisk, tisk. Hi Bay Bill!
aaaaaa January 21, 2013 at 03:04 AM
Again - it was right after school in a walking community and these were not 5 year olds! There is a middle ground between helicopter parents and total neglect!
dills January 21, 2013 at 04:21 AM
The reason for the differences of opinion? Mary Gavigan DID NOT communicate the facts to the Whitefish Bay community, students, and family. The school board needs to have the superintendent improve on her performance to communicate clearly and effective. There are too many questions unanswered.. Watch out Mary, it might be review time.
vn7300 January 21, 2013 at 04:37 PM
I believe the kids were just innocently playing around, showing off their toys. However, they had guns on school premises -- even though they were BB/pellet and unloaded, they violated rules regarding weapons on school grounds. It's very sad they are in this position rather innocently, but they are in this position. It will be a true test of the school district's autonomy to see if the rules are enforced. This community is chummy and inbred, which is very nice and traditional a fosters a safe environment but also breeds "exceptions to the rule". We'll see ....
Tiredboys January 21, 2013 at 07:10 PM
This wasnt just 'innocent' and there is more to the story than you are reading. They weren't just showing their 'toys'. I'm not saying these are bad kids but it isn't as innocent as some of you seem to believe. The details are known to both the school and police.
Oliver Clossoff January 21, 2013 at 07:25 PM
wfb51 - what does walking community have to do with parental supervision? So they should know better not being 5 yr olds? That shoots your argument down.
Oliver Clossoff January 21, 2013 at 07:25 PM
How do you know? That's not what I heard.
Mike Hunterz January 21, 2013 at 07:51 PM
I totally agree with you. The facts will come out.
Barry Malogginer January 21, 2013 at 07:57 PM
time to stop kicking this dead horse. Move along. Move along.
CowDung January 21, 2013 at 09:10 PM
I think that calls for expulsion are just a knee jerk reaction inspired by anti-gun zealotry. It kind of reminds me of the news stories we occasionally see where a kid is suspended for pretending to shoot another kid at recess, using his hand as a gun. Certainly this situation needs to be addressed, but it should be addressed in a reasonable and logical fashion rather than a knee jerk overreaction...
student2012 January 22, 2013 at 06:45 PM
This has only just begun -- names and details haven't even been released yet. This is the calm before the storm.
Being fair is a crime January 24, 2013 at 03:55 AM
Bob McBride, smh, its so very sad. I wish people werent this way, but they are. Its easy to comment and judge, but not so easy to reveal their kids, or their own "sticky mistakes". Go sit in court in WFB, and see how many times WFB kids get off..... While I agree that kids should be kept out of harms way, but please consider ALL the dangers that are harmful, and way worse than a pellet gun. smh WFB is not all what its cracked up to be....

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