I was astonished to see Sen. Darling recently comment that “this is the best budget (she has) ever seen since I entered the legislature” before voting to slash $1.7 billion from our public schools. And I was equally shocked to hear her proclaim that allowing unelected bureaucrats to slash roughly $500 million from state health care programs behind closed doors “is going to be a very exciting period of our history.”
Like many other members of our community, I am becoming increasingly concerned with the destructive effect this budget will have on the quality of our schools, services within our local communities, and programs provided to some of our most vulnerable populations. Rather than standing up to her party bosses, Sen. Darling – who chairs the powerful budget-writing Joint Finance Committee – has displayed a blatant disregard for our shared values while rushing through an extreme agenda.
The fact is that this toxic budget shifts hundreds of millions of dollars from our communities – our classrooms, our police and fire stations, and our access to healthcare – to fund tax cuts for corporations and handouts for special interests. Budgets are about priorities, and it is becoming increasingly obvious that Sen. Darling has misplaced the priorities of her constituents while marching lock step with her party bosses.
With the Government Accountability Board now certifying more than 23,000 signatures collected by volunteers during the recall campaign, I am excited to present our community with a clear contrast to Alberta Darling and the disastrous policies she is describing as the “best she has ever seen.”
Last month, about 30,000 people in the 8th Senate District signed petitions to recall Sen. Darling after the 20-year career politician stopped listening to her constituents and marched in lockstep behind the extreme, divisive agenda that pits party bosses and special interests against our working families and Wisconsin values. Sandy Pasch is running to fight for the health of our communities and defend our shared values.
1Bauer, Scott. "GOP Mostly Goes along with Walker's School Cuts." BusinessWeek. Associated Press, 27 May 2011. Web. 31 May 2011. http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9NG2L7G0.htm
2Wisconsin Eye. Joint Committee on Finance.
Chris
12:26 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
I love how people criticize someone else but offer no solution of thier own. Please explain how we can continue to overspend and not cut back on anything?
Randy
1:34 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
How about we cut back on the corporate tax breaks, or the unnecessary road projects, or maybe just maybe Scott Walker can stop hiring college drop outs and convicted drunk drivers to positions that pay over $100K/year because daddy donated to his campaign. No, no you are correct the only thing we can cut is education because that will have absolutely no impact on Wisconsin. Just ask Scotty boy look at him he didn't need an education and he is doing a fine job....
Don Jacobs
12:09 pm on Tuesday, June 7, 2011
There is a stark contrast between these two candidates. The election will be illuminating.
C Backus
1:33 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Chris-
The comments made by Pasch are regarding general bravado behind Darling's comments. The general message of the GOP quickly transitioned from "we all need to tighten our belts for a little bit" to "oh MAN that's a good cut! ...what about health services? cool! cut that too!"
The fact that education and public health services are FIRST on the chopping block, and not last, speak volumes about the Wisconsin Republican agenda.
CowDung
3:23 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Considering that Walker's education cuts are much smaller than the cuts to education made by Doyle in past years, I don't see how you can claim that it is a "Republican Agenda" to cut education first...
Kevin Buckley
7:19 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
@"CowDung" - Not trying to stir things up, I'm honestly curious about your statement that Walker's education cuts are "much smaller than the cuts to education by Doyle in past years" .. Can you expand on that? I wouldn't have guessed that, so I'm curious how the math can confirm that?
CowDung
9:48 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
It is in the Shorewood School District 'Administrative Budget Recommendations--post referendum' document on page 9. Sorry, I don't have a link to it.
The figures listed are:
2006/07, state aid decreased by $1,047,041 (15.46%)
2007/08, state aid decreased by $1,009,163 (17.62%)
2008/09, state aid decreased by $493,486 (10.46%)
2010/11, state aid decreased by $183,918 (4.35%)
2011/12, state aid projected decrease of $403,927 (10.00%)
Kevin Buckley
9:51 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
Thank you, that's very interesting. Obviously on a micro level, there's been districts who have gotten hammered more than others. -- I guess my thought is, on a macro level, that's not the case, but what do I know. We've heard of the 2012-13 $800m cuts .. which are far higher than previous budgets -- but I realie the math could be funny. Maybe someone knows.
Jay Sykes
10:58 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
As we face an 8th Senate District recall vote on July 12th(did I need to remind you!!), I think each of us would like to see a list of state aid for our respective school districts, like Cowdung provided for Shorewood. Also of interest would be the percentage of school district budget comes from the state v. local property taxes. As I recall, districts such as WFB, Nicolet and Mequon get very little state aid as a function of their total budget.
Kevin Buckley
11:22 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
As a point of info, Jan, while the North Shore suburb School Districts receive less support via State Aid .. it is a substantial part of the pie. -- The State typically shoots for 66% (has drifted downward, of course) for the entire state .. due to property wealth differences, Milwaukee, for example, has about 81% of their education bill paid for by State + Federal sources, and Milwaukee's citizens pay 19% of their bill-- a heck of a deal!
WFB, on the other hand, the equation is flipped, where the residents of WFB pay about 82% via property taxes, and WI+Feds pick up 18%. The numbers are slightly different for Shorewood, Glendale, Mequon, etc .. but in the same ballpark.
jenn marks
2:20 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
I believe that senility has set in for Darling. Maybe she can be hauled off to one of her nursing homes for the high quality care she is going to get as she drools in her oatmeal.
Rocko
5:10 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
We clearly know what Alberta Darling's budget looks like. So my one question for Pasch is what would your budget look like? Would you raise taxes $3.5 billion to cover our deficit? Would you tax some and cut some? If so what would you cut? Instead of attacking Alberta, what would you propose?
Concerned Shorewood Resident
6:17 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
As a business owner, and board member of various professional and non-profit organizations, I view budgets as a statement of values and priorities. The priorities of Walker and the republicans in power clearly point to aiding businesses & corporations, the wealthiest of our citizens, road builders, and donors.
These are difficult economic times, and (as we were told during the early months of this year), there needs to be shared sacrifice. This is a lopsided budget. They are proposing to cut health care funding for those who are not covered by employment-based plans; long-term care funding for frail elderly and adults & children with disabilities; unemployment compensation; and education. Please tell me where, in the current budget proposals, are the sacrifices by the wealthy? The corporations? The road builders?
The makeup of the current legislature means that there is no meaningful discussion of the issues and choices available to address our current challenges. As I have watched the JFC hearings, I have been struck by how disrespectful the process has been. Democrats have introduced amendments, and then have every single proposal defeated on a rigid party-line vote.
This is a terrifying time for our state, and I fear for our future.
And, before these comments draw the usual attacks by those who do not agree with me -- I am a former supporter of Sen Darling, and have respected her moderate positions on issues such as health care and education. But no more.
ike
11:01 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
If Obama did what Walker did, we would all be covered by the same insurance, rich or poor. Instead of shoving it down America's throat, Obama chose to take this one step at a time, unlike what Walker is doing.
George Mitchell
6:21 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Rep. Pasch voted in 2009 for a budget with a 3+billion structural deficit. Scott Walker and legislators such as Alberta Darling are making the decisions Rep. Pasch avoided. Rep. Pasch should explain her vote in favor of the 2009-11 deficit budget. She of course has every right to run against Senator Darling, but she also has an obligation to explain her alternative.
Lyle Ruble
9:48 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@George Mitchell...You must be pleased that Walker and the legislature is going to pay you off with expanding choice schools and vouchers. Of course you would agree to the Walker Plan, you get what you want. Take money out of public schools and give it to the private schools. Not good for the students and not good for Wisconsin.
Robert Naatz
9:20 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Seem to remember a more balanced budgetary projection from that budget. Darling voted on that budget also, how has her stance changed?
George Mitchell
9:37 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Mr. Naatz,
Bad memory. Sen. Darling voted No. There was no "balanced budget projection."
Jim
9:56 pm on Thursday, June 2, 2011
Please remember, the State of Wisconsin cannot print money.
George Mitchell
6:44 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
Rep. Pasch's supporters made fools of themselves in Madison yesterday.
Lyle Ruble
9:50 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@George Mitchell...Supporting Darling is protecting your investment.
The prosser-cuter
3:10 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011
You nailed it George. Pasch has never seen a tax increase she didn't like. Just go check out her voting record.
Raptor
7:43 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
I would like to ask Ms Pasch..so with all the money dumped into the hole we call a school system, how's that worked out so far? Who is succeding? Kids? or administrators and union heads?
At what point do we run out of other peoples money for entitlement programs? Instead of giving money every year how about we give them a job so yhey can sustain themselves? Who will hire them if no corporations want to come to this tax hell? Public sector can only suppot so many before we reach a tipping point. Want a start to healthcaere cost? How about a little tort reform?
Ms Pasch - what exactly are you ideas and plans. I've seen dems in action for too long and the results are not good.
Lyle Ruble
9:53 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@Raptor...They would love to have jobs. Corporations are not the answer, it is small business, but who controls the capitol? The only thing corporations want is more public money subsidies. Corporate wellfare needs to stop.
Keith Schmitz
9:54 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
Of course there are alternatives beyond ideologically mindless cuts -- http://tinyurl.com/3sge4uf. But that takes creativity, imagination and lack of shameless political hackery, something our Governor and robotic State Senator lacks. The unemployment numbers are proving that going back to GOP policies aren't working. Could have told you this would have happened.
BTW, anybody should be against tax payer support for religious schools, which should be unconstitutional. Past generations had the character to pay for their kids private school and not put it on the rest of us.
CowDung
10:14 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
What GOP policies have been put into effect that could possibly be affecting the unemployment numbers you are referring to?
CowDung
10:22 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
I don't agree that 'taxpayer support' for religious schools should be unconstitutional. The 'taxpayer support' you refer to is actually a voucher system. It is the state's responsibility to provide a 'free' education to all the citizens--if a Milwaukee city kid has to go to St. Robert (for example) to get a decent education, then I have no objection to having tax dollars paying for that, just as I would have no objection to having tax dollars paying for that kid to attend Atwater or Lake Bluff. Since we have limited space available in our quality public schools, it makes sense to turn to private schools to help provide that education.
Lyle Ruble
6:37 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@CowDung...If all private religious schools would give up the religious aspect of education your argument might have merit, but supporting institutions that teach a particular religious belief is, in my opinion, a violation of the 1st amendment, religious establishment clause.
CowDung
8:57 am on Monday, June 6, 2011
The first Amendment is about establishing a state religion--if people choose to attend a religious school, it isn't a matter of the state forcing it upon them. People can also choose to attend non-religious schools. Since people can also choose to attend whatever religious school they want--the vouchers are not force them into a single religion. Since there is no single religion that is being endorsed by the vouchers, it cannot be a matter of a religion being established as a 'state religion'...
Raptor
10:29 am on Friday, June 3, 2011
Glad to see Sandy resorting to Illinois democrats to make her seem as she has alot of support.
(heck she may need to stay at their house somday)
http://dpoe.org/theleft/2011/05/14/it-runs-family
Bob McBride
5:16 pm on Friday, June 3, 2011
I've been getting phone calls daily from people who are "not affiliated with the Democratic party" asking me if I'm going to vote for Sandy Pasch. Each time I've answered that I'm not planning on it. They then want to argue with me about it. I tell them each time that I've made my mind up, thank you, and that I'd appreciate it if they didn't waste my time again. I had two of these in two hours last night. Same organization every time.
Obviously, there's a level of desperation in all this that borders on hysteria. I don't know if they just think if they continue to bug us enough we'll give in and vote for her, or that they're going to be able to argue us into doing so. I've never seen anything like this.
Sandy may very well annoy her way to defeat if this is the way she (actually her handlers, no doubt) intend to run her campaign.
Craig
9:37 pm on Friday, June 3, 2011
More libitard rhetoric. Boo Hoo- this hurts the kids. How does it even affect them? The cut in spending is offset by the "horrible cuts" the teachers had to take.
If this is so terrible, please enlighten us on what you would do to improve it?
Still stuck in that tax and spend problem Pasch?
Lyle Ruble
6:51 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@ Craig...There is no way the increases in teachers contributions to healthcare and retirement make up for the amount cut from education. What doesn't make sense is that everyone is expected to cut but they significantly increase highway spending. I wonder if it has anything to do with the state highway lobby being Walker's single largest ccontributor.
The prosser-cuter
3:12 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011
Bob, we must be on the same phone list. I received two of those annoying calls in the last three or four days. I specifically asked what Sandy's plan was for balancing the budget. The person on the other end of the phone could not answer.
Robert Naatz
10:46 am on Saturday, June 4, 2011
I stand corrected on voting record
Robert Naatz
10:51 am on Saturday, June 4, 2011
However on the balanced budget under Doyle see----http://www.wisconsinreport.com/statenews/detail.php?id=177
Robert Naatz
3:56 pm on Saturday, June 4, 2011
The Rich are just looking for more handouts, why spend their own money when they can spend money taken from children.
Lyle Ruble
9:58 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@Joe Peterlin....It's one thing to be rich but quite another to be without morals and values. To enjoy your wealth while others go without. Great system.
The prosser-cuter
3:15 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011
@Robert - It would be nice if some of that money actually went to programs or things that benefit the children. It just goes for overpriced benefits for the teachers union. It's interesting to see that the districts that have "rammed" through contracts in advance of the BRB taking affect do not have to lay off any teachers or cut programs even with the anticipated cuts in school aid. This just proves that Walker and the republicans are right!
Cal
10:48 pm on Saturday, June 4, 2011
Budget Forum. 6:30-8:00pm. Tuesday June 7 th. Whitefish Bay High School Auditorium.
Jeff Lawson
9:32 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
Pasch, what kind of a budget would you like? A budget where the local governments can keep blaming the state and take no responsibility like the budgets we've had for the last 10 years.
You and Ruble are worst kind of disease for Wisconsin.
Lyle Ruble
10:02 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@Jeff Lawson...What don't you understand about recession bordering on depression. You can't judge the past ten years budget process given the state of the economy. We are in a major period of deflation and the budget didn't project such an event.
Matt
9:38 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
Now the GOP is going after craftbeer makers and microbrews to appease their donors. I thought republicans were against market and competition barriers. I guess it depends on who owns Walker/Darling...."Why would the WBDA and Miller-Coors be pushing this? To eliminate competition.
It is no secret that craft beer is gaining market share while Miller-Coors market share is declining. The WBDA can eliminate future serious competition by prohibiting craft brewers from getting together to open their own wholesalers" http://community.sportsbubbler.com/forums/p/97363/1197779.aspx
Craig
9:48 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
Lyle: Apparently you have not followed the School District of Menomonee Falls budget issues. You must drink the same flavor of Kool Aide as State Rep Pasch.
Lyle Ruble
10:07 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
@Craig...I know what happened in Menomonee Falls. Do I agree with how the school board handled it; NO! I don't know all the details and I'm sure that the next school board election will find some changes made.
Matt
10:16 pm on Sunday, June 5, 2011
Kool Aide Funfizz Giggling Grape is Awesome!
Dave
8:14 am on Monday, June 6, 2011
Pasch just wants to raise your taxes, what a new idea she is bringing to the table
Keith Schmitz
9:03 am on Monday, June 6, 2011
The mature among us realize that you have to raise some taxes in order to close the gap. Taxes are lower than they ever been. Funny. Health insurance has been rising much faster than taxes and how come we don't see any anguished bitching about that? How come we never see T-Party rallies on Wall Street against bad actor bankers?
Can't keep going in this direction. Infrastructure and even food stamps pump up the economy to a much greater extent that tax cuts.
Craig
8:38 am on Monday, June 6, 2011
Dave: She brings a very large glass of Kool Aide to the table- apparently to share with Lyle.
I think everyone can agree that quality of education has degraded over the past years and not 100% of the blame should be placed on the teachers. BUT, throwing more money after bad is not going to fix our problems. We have many years of history that shows this doesn't work. If it DID work, we would be having an entirely different debate because there is no money left of the money tree to p*ss away!
ike
12:41 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011
@Craig - Not sure why you could say that the quality of education has degraded. On what are you basing that comment? I think kids in Wisconsin get an excellent education, especially compared to states where school staff have no representation. No one is asking to throw more money at schools, rather, they're asking that the current administration leave our schools alone. Our current administration has made no indication that they are trying to fix school-related problems, they know that's contradictory to their actions.
Craig
2:14 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011
Ike: Test scores have degraded, and behavioral issues have continued to increase. I don't like to compare our schools with those in another region of the country, rather I like to look at the trends in test scores for the same school over a period of time. To compare our kids to those of areas where teeth are a luxury is not a fair comparison.
We have been throwing more money into the schools since the Thompson was Governor. All the while School taxes were going up- none of that additional funding actually went to anything that helped educate the kids. We now have multiple assistant principals and more administration than ever; yet we have had declining student populations for 20 years. We have Principals who's contracts were not renewed, a replacement was hired and the former is now a 'consultant' for the District. We have assistant principals doing attendance clerk's jobs, at 3 times the rate of pay for a clerk.
Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, continually pouring more money into a broken system has not worked- time to try a new approach.
Rather than the Pasch mentality of tax and spend, and spend even more...in fact, spend more than what you have coming in until there is no funds left to educate anyone..
We need to be diligent and responsible. If your car doesn't run, you don't get a new paint job just to make it look good, especially if you don't have the funds to fix it in the first place.
ike
3:27 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011
@Craig - Good point about comparing cross-country, funny too, but sad. Do you really believe what you wrote when you wrote, "School taxes were going up- none of that additional funding actually went to anything that helped educate the kids." Students have not benefited from the additional tax dollars for 20 years? You make it sound like school administrators are out-of-control. Can you imagine the power they'll have when their staff is no longer unionized? You must be as concerned as I am about the potential for them to abuse their power.
Regarding behavioral issues, we can't put that entirely on the schools and there's no way to know if those are worse, more common, both, or due to LACK of funding for school counselors. Most of that onus is on the parents.
Regarding test scores, I haven't seen the statistics, but there's a lot that goes into those. To say that schools are failing because test scores are worse is not a fair assumption. Our schools have been doing very well and I compared them earlier to other states because Wisconsin ranks very high (even compared to states where kids have teeth) in almost any category of performance assessment which tells me that our education system is not a broken one, yet.
Craig
9:05 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011
I do think the increased funding from our taxes have been fruitless. Administrators are overabundant now, school counselors are also overabundant: When I went to MFHS- we only had three of them- now there are seven. (bear in mind there are only half the number of students)
I do agree the discipline issues start with parents and the school system can't be 100% to blame.
I also agree test scores only tell part of the story. But go to any kid running a cash register and if your bill is $17.51- hand them a 20. Then after they punch in the $20, give them another penny....
I am not opposed to spending money on programs that work, but I do question how it can cost nearly $15,000 per student to attend our public schools? The University of WI-Madison is $9,800 !
Tom McMahon
2:04 pm on Wednesday, June 8, 2011
It would probably be too much to expect to have Sandy Pasch ask her supporters (both paid and unpaid) to stop protesting the Special Olympics. <sigh>
George Mitchell
8:59 am on Thursday, June 9, 2011
What will it take for Sandy Pasch to distance herself from the Capitol hooligans that back her campaign?
Lyle Ruble
3:49 pm on Friday, June 10, 2011
@ike...Joe Peterlin vacillates in his approach to his postings. Of all who regularly posts, he is quick to take it to another level. There are times when he is clear, concise and makes his points without rancor. Other times he rambles and rolls with suppositions and assumptions, leaving the reader mystified as to what is the main point. You have to admire Joe for his absolute commitment to everything conservative. From some others who know him, he has been a challenge to the Shorewood School Board for quite some time. I have to admit, I enjoy reading his posts along with those of Bob McBride IIs. Hang in there and try to stay to the higher path. When Joe levels his guns at me, I don't take it personally.
ike
4:14 pm on Friday, June 10, 2011
@Lyle Ruble - I hear ya' and I've noticed that pattern with your responses and admire that. They have both made very clever and civil comments before. I remember one conversation with Joe (if I remember correctly) specifically when a reader commented on how impressed she was with the constructive style of the conversation about poverty. Those interactions are great, but I'm still at a maturity level where I fight fire with fire, not water like I should. These are such personal issues and I find everyone's reactions very interesting. I appreciate your advice; they should pay you as a mediator on here =).
Lyle Ruble
1:08 pm on Saturday, June 11, 2011
@Joe Peterlin...One thing is for sure, we share the same goals, which is to assure people's needs are met and that we create a society that has meaningful employment where people can earn a living wage. No matter what happens politically, we will still live on the North Shore as neighbors and life goes on. I too can get rather emotive when my perspective is ignored or completely discounted, but that rarely occurs. I enjoy our exchanges and always look forward to what you have to say.